*sigh* the "equipment"

Does your book have 10 chapters missing? Did you pay $1300 for a 4 year old dell laptop? Tired of the old desktops and slow network?

*sigh* the "equipment"

Postby MSTie1 » April 25th, 2008, 9:38 am

Okay so now for my books and equipment rant. :P What is up with all the custom books?? Especially the Operating Systems book if any of you know about it. Slap two books together, not even recent ones, as one of them was actually an A+ book for when it was hardware and os technologies. The biggest problem with the books is this though...NOBODY READS THEM! I feel like I'm the only one that does, and most of the time this includes the teacher. And everybody gets into class and doesn't know what the crap is going on. The way that I feel about it is that I'm at a remedial college, I went to SIUE previously for a couple of years and none of the stuff that goes on at ITT would fly there. In fact, none of it would fly at any high school. So what gives? Oh and of course..the equipment. You think that we could have a decent network. Have a lab with like 100 computers in it and then shove 3 classes in there with stuff to do on the net. Yea that's real smart. And now we're at an interim because our system admin left for a job with more money, can't say I blame him. However there was still several times previous where almost a whole row of computers would be down with funny errors. No doubt people taking the hard drives out while the computer was still on.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby sevenalive » April 25th, 2008, 6:53 pm

LOL ya people do still those hard drives, i have no idea why....oh wait i do.

The network is so damn slow and the software is years out of date. Like DVD's java class, there on JDK 1.5 Netbeat 5. WTF they are both free, the current versions are JDK 6.0upd5 and Netbeats 6.03. Lets not forget VS Studio 2003 and Dreamweaver MX 7.

So much has changed in VS2003 to VS2005, and a little to 2008. They need to upgrade because they are teaching students obsolete .net 1.1 still when companys are on MINIMUM 2.0(2005), most are on 3.0(2005) or 3.5(2008)
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby Waitwat » May 9th, 2008, 1:21 am

At least it isn't just my "school". On any given day our network goes down 5+ times per class session. There was a workstation in one of the labs that wouldn't boot for FOUR months. Today it was finally fixed, I sat down at it, turned it on, and the desktop/programs/everything was completely fucked. Somehow some spyware got on one of the LRC computers. I attempted to track down the admin (who graduated from ITT btw... sigh) to do something about it. Come to find out he wasn't in his office and he wasn't even in the building, at 10am on a Tuesday. He was supposed to be there but he was nowhere to be found. Now, I dunno if it's like this at every "campus" but in mine the admin is personally responsible for cleaning the labs because of the "delicate equipment" contained therein. As of today there was a multiple centimeters thick coat of dust on every table in every lab room, including the LRC. Along with that I noticed the same nasty crumbs and coffee stain in the LRC that has been there since my first quarter. ITT is a fucking joke. I'm putting serious thought into burning down the building. I don't care if I go to jail, it's better than forking over $40k for fucking nothing.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby Monkeymook » June 4th, 2008, 11:54 pm

Here at mine, we have old-arse computers with wonderful Pentium 4 Processors, 512 MB Ram, and the worst video graphics cards that you can get for free. The hard drives are locked into the pcs with those shitty keys, they are always down, having issues, they take forever to log into the server, you can run little to no programs on them (which is why I install ALL of my tools to FAT32 flash drives when I need them, and the keyboards are shit (cheap, plasticy shits from Dell). Sure, you have access to the internet, but not until a long wait. Free internet in the park is faster than this.

Do not fear, for photos will be posted of the Institute's hardware.

Electronics kits:

This is mine, after upgrading the following:
Extra supplies, IE:
Resistors
Capacitors
Transistors
Cabling (have more to add)
Soldering Iron (I'll post a photo of the old one later, once I get my other supplies)
More screwdriver bits and tips
The small toolkit by itself is the Zoozen toolkit, including every single screwdriver bit needed to disassemble every gaming console existing.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p192 ... olkit1.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p192 ... olkit3.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p192 ... olkit4.jpg
My original kit was ridiculously empty before the upgrade.


Books:
Too many to list.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p192 ... /books.jpg

Software:
Not even anything important.
The only software we have gotten that is actually worth anything (which I had pirated, in a custom-built disc) would be Microsoft Office 2003. This was in 2006. There were also already beta copies needing testing from Office 2007. ITT Tech could have sent students copies of Office 2007 to test and get paid for. How nice of me to think of that.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p192 ... ftware.jpg


When my campus opens back up (we're on break), then I will take photos of the rest of the Institution. You'll be able to see where this one I go to is (right BEHIND A FUCKING MALL), and I'll post photos of the remodeling going on.

The campus thinks they're doing something special by replacing all the PCs in the current multimedia design labs and replacing them with Macs. Ugh. They are also switching theories and labs on a few floors to make room available larger. And why are we still using Flash MX 2004?

But then again, this will help the FragFest that Grade A runs, since we use the campus as a place to hold it.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby sevenalive » June 5th, 2008, 3:02 am

You have floors at your campus, i had a single story, maybe ill post pics too.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby Monkeymook » June 5th, 2008, 6:27 pm

The floors here should just be left "floors". The projectors and computers are so ridiculously strung out and incorrectly configured, it makes my ass thirsty for a drink of water.

The projectors have about 8 different settings, the campus only uses one of them. The students put the projectors to better use (when we're allowed).

The pc hard drives are locked from the outside (until you crack open the case, that is).

Almost all the ports on the pcs are USB 1.1, due to ITT not upgrading the pcs to XP SP2. We are still stuck on SP1.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby doniker » June 5th, 2008, 9:36 pm

The hard drives are locked into the pcs with those shitty keys, they are always down, having issues, they take forever to log into the server, you can run little to no programs on them (which is why I install ALL of my tools to FAT32 flash drives when I need them, and the keyboards are shit (cheap, plasticy shits from Dell). Sure, you have access to the internet, but not until a long wait. Free internet in the park is faster than this.


When I went to ITT we regularly spent half of our class time dealing with equipment malfunctions.

I often thought "How the hell can a computer school have so many problems with computers?"

I now attend a community college and I am taking computer courses. I am actually learning something, the books match the lessons the instuctors teach, the labs work correctly, and the computers all work.

ITT is a fucking joke.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby Monkeymook » June 5th, 2008, 10:59 pm

doniker wrote:When I went to ITT we regularly spent half of our class time dealing with equipment malfunctions.


When we had a class dealing with Virtual Machines on Windows XP, nearly half the damn class couldn't even find the shortcut for VM, simply because the shit was never installed to begin with. This was in Operating Systems class.

Well, I guess ITT Tech is the ONLY place where a hacker goes to get a degree and get signed up for every damn class BUT "Hacker Techniques". Yes, my ITT actually has this shit of a course. The only new information that they cover is "backdoors and trojans".

Fucking lawl.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby KuJoe » June 5th, 2008, 11:24 pm

I guess this is the good thing about going to a new campus. The Pinellas Park campus has been open for about 15 months I think so everything is brand new. In one of my classes a handful of PCs didn't even have a default printer set since they hadn't been used the first year.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby Monkeymook » June 5th, 2008, 11:52 pm

All of the printers we use generally take about 1 minute to print even a single page. It's due to the shitty network that the "IT" guys set up.

The problem I have with them is that they refuse to let the students get in there and secure the campus and speed up the network. The IT guys think they do a great job of keeping the network running. They whine and complain there's always problems with the speed, with the internet, with the Portal, but yet, they claim the problems are created by the students. These issues have been here since day one.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby KuJoe » June 6th, 2008, 12:10 am

I hate ignorant admins. I'm glad the teacher assigned to admin our network atleast has a clue. The only problem I have with our network is that they block access to certain ports so I can't admin my webservers in class (unless I use my laptop + cell phone of course). :lol:
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby Monkeymook » June 6th, 2008, 1:02 am

I would suggest using a Linux distro to navigate around that issue.

My personal preference for my security and privacy are 1 of 2 distros:

Backtrack 2
OR
Auditor

Backtrack 2:
http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/back ... 2final.iso
OR
ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/backtrack/bt2final.iso

Auditor:
Soon to be posted, busy uploading.
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby KuJoe » June 6th, 2008, 1:51 am

I was actually being sarcastic as it's not really a big deal not being able to SSH into my server during the 4 hour class. ;)
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby SheepToTheFleecing » June 6th, 2008, 6:50 am

Almost all the ports on the pcs are USB 1.1, due to ITT not upgrading the pcs to XP SP2. We are still stuck on SP1.


I think maybe USB 2.0 has been around WAY longer than XP SP2. Whatever. But I don't know and I don't care. I just go to my menial labor job and drink until I pass out and do it again the next day. (See you in the lake of fire ITT tech PR persons and abusive "teachers.")
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Re: *sigh* the "equipment"

Postby SheepToTheFleecing » June 6th, 2008, 7:03 am

In one of my classes a handful of PCs didn't even have a default printer set since they hadn't been used the first year.


Is the default printer set now? WAIT WAIT a DAMNED SECOND HERE?!!? why are you still attending?!?!?!?!? The credits don't transfer! You've been lied to about that! The teachers only pretend to have any experience in their field. You've been lied to about that. Now you expect your degree to be worth anything. Because it is a "degree" and because its worth has been "authenticated" over and over implicitly and explicitly. You deans and department heads and directors and teachers and shareholders are hurting people. You are hurting people. Four little words on your computer screen. VERILY, VERILY, i SAY UNTO YOU.! YOU ARE HURTING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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