EDIT: I deleted something I regret having written in the fir

SheepToTheFleecing · by **SheepToTheFleecing** » November 23rd, 2008, 5:43 pm

EDIT: I deleted something I regret having written in the first place.

The latest revision is valid information and well written. This mcjeff guy is pissing me off, he probably works for itt tech.

Well that mother fucker, i reverted it, so he had is friend dayewalker revert mine.

Honestly what do they do patrol it every 2 minutes, my revert wasn't even on there that long. You can't win with those assholes.

Dystopos joined Wikipedia in November 2004 and founded BhamWiki.com, a parallel project for the Birmingham, Alabama area, in March 2006.

Hmm didn't desert shadow live there...hmm lol

SheepToTheFleecing · by **SheepToTheFleecing** » November 24th, 2008, 7:15 pm

So they locked the article to editing by new and unregistered users. As they should have. I told you it was a bitch move on my part. I am still able to edit it because I have a not-too-new account with Wikipedia.

As far as editors that are not me, it is very important to assume good faith on their part. It is kinda almost too late for me. They know I am belligerent and that I have an agenda. (Turns out that is a bad thing. Who knew?) At least they don't think me disingenuous. Also, I talk like I am paranoid. (Although, I like to think that I only have paranoid theories and not paranoid delusions.) I think we are all entitled to a little bit of paranoia. After all we each owe $50,000 because we were conned into spending hours in a building that, if you didn't know any better, would appear to be a technical institution with emphasis on career training. (Don't get me wrong. I had one really good teacher. Although, I am not sure how up-to-date the material was. Also, everybody cheated on every one of his assignments. (He left his briefcase sitting out and alone all of the time.) Also, the other teacher I had was abysmal and a complete asshole. (He was dumb and an ass. A dumbass if you will.))

Is there some way to find out what geographical area someone is from by their IP address?

I was wrong. This isn't easy. It is actually somewhat difficult. I did not do a good job of choosing a subject line for this thread. My bad.

sevenalive · by **sevenalive** » November 24th, 2008, 8:40 pm

Well they accused me, you and 2 others of being the same person. Event though the ip's are clearly in different states. saying WP:UNDUE on that revision is like saying the Hitler article is WPUNDUE. This McJeff guy needs to research itt, but my guess he works for them.

What you need to do is get editors to voice their opinions on the disputed content on the talk page. Then the consensus is in your favor.

If you ask me McJeff is trying everything to get you banned. The guy even reverts this edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =253878484

It doesn't even change text, but he removes the sources. This guy is so concerned over this article like it's his, i am willing to bet he works for ITT.

SheepToTheFleecing · by **SheepToTheFleecing** » November 24th, 2008, 9:56 pm

Yeah, he is mean to me too.

I don't think "he" really believes that I am using sock puppets, but I have stated here that that is what "he" was probably doing so "he" wanted to beat me to the punch maybe. (The quotes around "he" are my clever way of implying that "he" is a sock puppet.) Maybe he is. There is no way to be sure one way or the other so it really doesn't matter. (Unless he slips up... and then some other puppet will just step in anyway... so never mind. Hypothetically speaking of course.)

From the looks of it I appear to be more of a jerk than any other editor there. So maybe he is an okay editor and I just pushed his buttons by being unreasonable. Erasing those references was wrong of him though. Everybody knows that, and after he thinks about it he will know it too.

If I am using sock puppets I must not be very good at it because I got caught right away. (I am not and I didn't.) One of them was you right?

SheepToTheFleecing · by **SheepToTheFleecing** » November 24th, 2008, 10:36 pm

OH! You just use WHOIS to find out the geographical location. Amirite? And I am pretty sure that you can just use a proxy server and it will change your IP so that it is from the other side of the world or whatever. I've only ever used a proxy server once and that was just to see if I could do it. It worked but it was really slow and who knows what kind of evilness I exposed my computer to. (I just Googled "list of proxy servers" and picked one.)

McJeff · by **McJeff** » November 25th, 2008, 4:25 am

If you must know.

1) I am not an employee of ITT Tech. I do categorically deny being an employee at ITT Tech. I will point out that I have had no problem keeping the three major lawsuits.

2) I'm sorry if I come across as mean. Yes, actually, SheepToTheFleecing/Veecort had it right - I am rather out of what wikipedia terms "good faith", and that is what's responsible for the image on my Wikipedia userpage that says semi-retired. I'm happy to answer anyone's questions about wikipedia to the best of my ability, and as far as niceness goes, I am as nice to anyone else as they are to me.

If you would like help with wikipedia, including advice on how to improve the controversy section, I am happy to do that. There are many noticeboards and ways to obtain help with editing, sourcing and content disputes. Though you would do well to read the wikipedia policy "Neutral Point of View", which means basically that wikipedia is not a place for you to grind your axe against ITT Tech, and that articles about businesses must be written neutrally rather than as a hatchet job, regardless of how well you think the hatcheting is deserved.

I don't care to make this post any longer than this, because I suspect I will be banned and this post deleted or mutilated. I have lurked on these boards for quite some time and seen that dissent of any form is not tolerated, and that it is assumed that anyone who is not consumed with hatred for ITT Tech is dubbed a company shill and banned as such.

sevenalive · by **sevenalive** » November 25th, 2008, 5:10 am

Only 2 people have been banned on this site, i do not edit user's post. That would be CENSORING.
Those 2 people were clearly ITT employee's, as i obtained the proper evidence as such.

Hell i don't care if you love ITT, this isn't the site for that, however if the post blatantly comes off as a PR commercial it raises suspicions. I talked to corporate, they know this site is here and they have been watching it.

McJeff why don't you take the time to read the posts on this site, but check out the articles in our section, and search ITT Tech on ripoff reports. Thousands and thousands of reports. Not only that, ITT, Devry and the such have been made fun of numerous times on sitcoms, because they are a joke.

Now while i do not agree with all of Veecorts edits, at least the last edit with citations should even make you happy. Instead of calling WP:Undue, why don't you work on some of the positive aspects to balance the negative ones.

PR bullshit is not tolerated on this site, there are people on this site who have positive things to say, the posts and users are still here.

Also, remove me from suspected sock puppets as i am not clearly Veecort/Sheeptothefleecing. 70.190.149.252 is my ip, i don't know how you think it's coming from PA, when it's clearly coming from AZ.

SheepToTheFleecing · by **SheepToTheFleecing** » November 25th, 2008, 9:35 pm

I don't know anything about IP addresses. (I graduated from ITT Tech. 'nuff said.) But I believe that there are free proxy servers all over the world. So the geographical origin of the IP is almost unimportant. Again I am ignorant of such things. (I only have a degree in it. Those incredible bastards. They can have the books and the degree back. They can even keep the money, hell I'll even sign more papers and take out more loans to give to them, I just want them to stop hurting people.) That was an aside, Here is another one.

Are you reading this ITT Tech employees? You are betraying people's faith in their State and Federal Governments and in academia. You are promising something that you do not deliver. Just tell your teachers that, despite the grading "system," to actually make an effort to understand the subject matter and teach it to their students.

Sorry, when I think about technical stuff it reminds me of the asshole teacher who refused to teach and just walked around with his hand on his johnson and bitching about everything.

I don't even remember why I clicked "Reply." I typed it up so I may as well click submit.