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I plan to sue.

Postby jput12345 » May 16th, 2008, 6:32 pm

I attended ITT Tech a few years ago. I was there for a few quarters, moved on, and never went back. I'm deliberately being vague. My grades were all As and Bs except one. The class as a whole always disclosed their grades with each other so I knew my standing. I was usually the top or second best student in the class. I was a few years younger and not exactly the smartest, but my grades said I was, so who was I to question it? I plan to sue them for not giving me the education I paid for. I have undeniable proof that they did not educate me in even the most introductory of classes. After ITT, I transferred to another, ....to a respectable university. They saw my grades and were GLAD to have me. Based on those grades the respectable university placed me in the seemingly appropriate classes. Despite many late nights studying, I flunked out after my 2nd semester. I didn't quit. I then went to my local community college for the exact same program. Some of the class descriptions were damn near exactly the same, might as well have been word for word, so there wasn't any reason I shouldn't have aced them. In one such class in particular, at ITT I received an A. For the exact same class at the local community college I got a D. I realized after that that you actually have to work to get a degree (aka learn something). So the next semester I started fresh, as fresh as I can anyhow, at the community college and this time I busted my ass. That time I got an A in that class, no thanks to ITT. Not only that, but when somebody asked me what I learned, I actually had an answer. This time I feel like I've learned something, ..because I did. I remember feeling scammed while at ITT, but our grades were so damn good I thought for a while we were actually learning. So after flunking out of a respectable college and damn near flunking out of a community college, ITT Tech, according to their own records (my transcript), believes they have taught me something. I am not a lazy student. While at the respectable university I stood up late most nights studying. It just wasn't enough. And after a very rough patch in the beginning, I did finish up at the community college. My GPA is 3.9. I even earned an award for my accomplishments at the community college. What ITT Tech did teach me, is that you don't have to do anything to receive good grades. It was very misleading and led me to believe I was smart, when in fact I was dumb as dirt and knew nothing even after several quarters of "education". They taught me nothing and took my money. I call that robbery. What defense they could try to squeeze out of this?

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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby sevenalive » May 16th, 2008, 6:57 pm

Ya, when you can miss classes and make up 5 weeks of work on the last week, there is something wrong. In a real college, if you don't have the assignment, you get an F. There is no makeup work.

I am calling lawyers and seeing where we stand with a class action lawsuit. The great thing about a CAL, is that ITT has to give out contact info to all of their students. Then the lawyer sends out letters about the CAL, so more people become involved!
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby jput12345 » May 16th, 2008, 8:22 pm

Are you calling a lawyer based on what I said, or were you already in the works? I don't live in CA. I do however have a list of all the members of my classes. No addresses or phone numbers though. Back when I was attending, another student tried to sue the school, but since everybody was doing so "well" with our awesome grades, nobody wanted to. Not only do they use those good grades to make themselves look better and scam financial aid out of the government, they also use them to manipulate their students into doing nothing. Then after the student graduates with good grades, they'll just say we're not trying hard enough or some crap like that. At least I have some documentation to back up my claims.
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby sevenalive » May 16th, 2008, 8:32 pm

No, its been in the works for about 3 weeks. Read all of the topics on this site. They kicked me out about 3 weeks ago, the topic is called attention members.
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby jput12345 » May 16th, 2008, 11:08 pm

Oh, shoot, you didn't say CA as in California. Never mind that comment.
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby sevenalive » May 16th, 2008, 11:24 pm

I meant CAL as in Class Action Lawsuit. lol
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby SheepToTheFleecing » May 16th, 2008, 11:36 pm

I am not convinced that you are not a honey pot that tells us you will get us our justice. Every accused must know their a accuser.

My main question is... What is your motivation?
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby jput12345 » May 17th, 2008, 12:01 am

You are not convinced that I am not a honey pot. ..so you think I am a honey pot? My motivation is that I was screwed and thought I was alone. When I recently found out that I am not alone I started researching the topic. As long as the ball is rolling I'm going to give it a good hard shove. There's no reason not to and there's always a chance I can get back what I deserve; my money.
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby SheepToTheFleecing » May 17th, 2008, 7:27 am

I don't think we are ever going to get our money back. Ittakestime.org is not the first page of it's kind. They always just disappear.
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby jput12345 » May 17th, 2008, 2:14 pm

You sound like a quitter.
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Re: I plan to sue.

Postby SheepToTheFleecing » May 17th, 2008, 4:24 pm

I have not quit. My goal is not to get my money back. I do have goals and I would appreciate advice. One is to warn people so that they do not believe the same lies that I did. As ITT Tech alumni we should be ashamed of ourselves for pretending to the world that it is a real school. (What is "job placement" anyway? What ever happened to the "job placement" we were promised? And the marketable skills!?! The classes were hours long jokes!!)

Maybe we can shame congress into not selling us out (quite so blatantly) to these "student loan farms." If the scam can be put more into the public eye, then the FBI will prosecute, even if the crimes are committed by the lowest ranking employees (who wouldn't be there if they didn't "play ball".) Also, the more widely accepted the truth about ITT is, the better chance a judge will let us get rid of the student loans in bankruptcy.

Perhaps most of these goals are unattainable, but it is all I can do. I can't go to school to be a lawyer or politician, (or buy a car or a house or have kids.)

These ITT Tech shysters will continue running their scam for generations. Maybe they will fire some of the asshole and/or slacker teachers because of us. The most important thing we can do is be "catchers in the rye" and warn prospective victims.

There were pages upon pages of criticism of ITT Tech at the disappeared sites. This site is the only one currently in existence. Maybe word of mouth is spreading, but I doubt it. I think this fight will be long and thankless and damn near futile. I will never forget what they did to me though and trying to warn others is the only thing that restores my well being.
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