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[sevenalive]

In my experience i haven't met one person who could help me (job related) at itt, but thats just me and that campus.

A+ Certification is a job, a lot of Tech support/repair shops (who know what they are doing) don't even bother with that certification. For one thing it focuses on 20 year old hardware than it does current tech. Also it doesn't teach you or prepare you how to troubleshoot/solve problems, something books can't teach, but experience can.

I can confirm he works for them (looked up your ip), that is cool you got that job. I just hope your not invested into itt.

[Monkeymook]

One thing everybody will learn after entering Corporate America is this: It's not what you know, it's who you know. And the networking and contacts I am making at ITT so far have been priceless.

I have to agree. I have learned more from the people going to ITT rather than the people teaching there.

I realized ITT was a shit "college" after my third semester. What kind of a real college would put you in a "problem solving" class? Shit, even the physics class there was strangely easy. I passed it with an overall grade of 98.9%.

I am awful at math, simply because some ass decided a long time ago that letters were equal to a definite value that cannot be physically proven, except using inaccurate mathematical equations.

The teachers there are not evil teachers, some actually have good intentions, but they don't realize that by working there, they are supporting the greed that is ITT. Also, by the students going there, they support the same.

[doniker]

Let him do it his way...he will learn, once he has a huge debt and nothing to show for it, like I do.

Loophole to tranfer credits...HAHAHA!

According to ITT I "passed" there two math classes with a B and a C. When I enrolled in a community college (a few months after I left ITT) they told me those "credits" were worthless and I also did so bad on the entrance exam that I have to take remedial math classes before I can even take college math. Again proving ITT taught me nothing.

I am currently taking an IT class at the community college and I am learning so fucking much for only $80 per credit hour....I sometimes sit in class and think to myself "I owe ITT (Sallie Mae) $20,000 for 9 months of bullshit classes in which they taught me nothing." and I just get so pissed off.

[Monkeymook]

I sometimes sit in class and think to myself "I owe ITT (Sallie Mae) $20,000 for 9 months of bullshit classes in which they taught me nothing." and I just get so pissed off.

You think you're the only one who can prove they've had a bad experience at ITT? We all have, dude. I kick myself all the fucking time just thinking about the money I've wasted.

[KuJoe]

If you really must know the loophole, you can enroll in a school that is both nationally and regionally accredited, take 1 semester there, and then transfer your credits elsewhere. I was only able to find one school locally for me (Florida Atlantic University College of Business) but it's not that far from me. Enjoy!

Oh, and the only way I know about this loophole is from a friend/co-worker who transferred from DeVRY to University of South Florida.

[doniker]

you are only transfering from one ripoff "for profit corporation" to another.

Go to a real school!!!!

You think you're the only one who can prove they've had a bad experience at ITT? We all have, dude. I kick myself all the fucking time just thinking about the money I've wasted.

Hell no...I know I'm not the only one. We all got in this fucked up sinking ship!!

[Monkeymook]

you are only transfering from one ripoff "for profit corporation" to another.

Go to a real school!!!!

Listen to yourself, mate!

I'd at least praise him for having some other way to get away from ITT. ITT is my only option at the moment, so I give him credit. If he's going to waste his money, at least he can do it in a place a little more comforting than ITT Tech.

[KuJoe]

you are only transfering from one ripoff "for profit corporation" to another.

Go to a real school!!!!

You appear to lack the reading comprehension skills needed for us to maintain any conversation. You're so filled with negativity that even when I offer a possitive solution for transferring your "worthless" credits to ANY SCHOOL YOU WANT, you still think it's a bad idea because anything positive must be wrong.

Again, I want to state that I chose ITT Tech over the other universities I previously attended because the environment is much more to my liking. I don't except to learn anything I don't already know, my goal is to get a piece of paper stating that I can do what I already know how to do. As it currently stands my experience is enough to land me the job I want with my current employer, my problem is that other employers in the area require atleast an Associates of Science degree before you are allowed the first interview. I need the piece of paper ITT provides to get my foot in the door and then let my experience get me the job.

Another reason I chose ITT is the pacing, it's accelerated versus other school which is what I want. My personal goal is to have a degree before I'm 25, ITT was my best option for this as I have a full time job and wife.

[Monkeymook]

My first semester was good at ITT, I learned new things, of course, but after that, then teachers shifted around, groups of clubs disbanded, Sallie May raised hell with me about my payments, and I started getting less and less payments for loans.

Things have gotten worse since I got there.

Luckily, I have three months to go.

[KuJoe]

I'm seriously starting to think that the location has much more play in the experience you get than people might think. So far all of the horror stories I'm reading are from ITT Techs located in the northern states, where as the positives ones appear to be more southern states (as Monkeymook pointed out before I believe). I do have 1 rant about ITT so far but I shall save that for a new thread.

[MSTie1]

Kujoe, I'm happy that you're at least having a good experience at ITT. As you can tell nobody else on here has had one and it has made everybody pretty bitter. I'd like to think that there are some good ITT campuses out there, I mean it would be kinda impossible for *all* of the campuses to suck I guess. Murphy's Law would come in and at least make one campus good.
I recently had a phone interview and of course I was asked, are you going to continue college? I said I was, but I definitely wasn't going to go back to ITT. He asked why. I explained that I felt that I knew more of the material than both the teachers and the students. He said that he had heard all of that before. So it's not just me that is having issues with my campus unfortunately. Also been getting hounded with emails from career services about "entry level" jobs. All they have been are $8-10/hr part time. They have yet been able to come to me about any type of real "career" type of job. I wish I could say that my campus has helped me through connections. But our teachers are so sub par that they don't seem to have very good jobs themselves. So I'm not sure what I'm going to end up doing. I have a lot of the knowledge already so I am really going for just a piece of paper. Although at the time I signed up I did think I would actually learn something. I'm going into my 5th quarter, although I have 1 1/3 quarters of transfer credits, so really I guess the 6th quarter. Still trying to be optimistic about learning something I didn't know before, which has given some degree of confidence that I knew more than I thought I guess? heh
All I'll come out of this however is a $40,000 book collection and a piece of paper I hope some employer will pay attention to.

Anybody used LinkedIn or any of the other job networking sites? Have any luck with them?

[KuJoe]

I should clarify that my networking and connection building has been through other students and not really through teachers since most of the teachers have CEET type jobs. I should also state that I am probably the youngest person at my campus in the CNS program (we have a lot of teenages in the CEET program or whatever) so the other CNS students are already working in the field so that helps me out also (my resume references have doubled so far since enrollment also ).

[MSTie1]

That kind of odd. You have a lot of other teenagers in class with you and several people that are already in the field? I'm currently 25, had to wait to be independent from parents before I could get financial aid and go back to school. I think I'm around the middle of the age group of people that are at my campus. But in every class I've been in I've been more knowledgable than any other student. I also have not met any students that are already in the field, with the exception of maybe some $8/hr job, which to me doesn't count. Even in the quarter I'm in I'm stuck in classes with people that don't know how to install windows or have no idea what ipconfig does or had no idea linux existed before. I'm in CNS too btw. So apparently my campus is dried up.

[KuJoe]

All of the CEET students are in their early to mid 20s and 95% of them don't have a clue and don't want to be there. Of the 30 students I have met there are 5 others, not including me, in the CNS program. Some, like me, are already working in the field and going to ITT for a different reason than most. I'm easily the youngest person in CNS at 23 so I benefit a lot more from the other CNS students.

[Veracity]

If you really must know the loophole, you can enroll in a school that is both nationally and regionally accredited, take 1 semester there, and then transfer your credits elsewhere. I was only able to find one school locally for me (Florida Atlantic University College of Business) but it's not that far from me. Enjoy!

Oh, and the only way I know about this loophole is from a friend/co-worker who transferred from DeVRY to University of South Florida.

Devry University is accredited by regional accredidation. This can be verified here: http://www.chea.org/search/default.asp

Another university will accept credits earned through Devry coursework; however, they will not honor ITT Tech. Colleges require a transcript from all of the previous institutions that you have attended. While Devry may give you "credit" for some classes (marked as transfer on the transcript), another college will not. You will only receive credit for the courses completed through Devry. This is not a loophole!