Job Posting

[kayot]

I loved it when I was looking for jobs and one had the following requirement:

Must have 5+ years in MS Server 2003. (Not NT, Not 2000), I read this back in 2006. I really wanted to call them up, but chuckled at the idea that someone might have that experience.

I think in most cases the employer doesn't know what they want. Another job wanted batchlers with certification and several years of experience and was offering 50K a year. Some one with the pre reqs could start anywhere and command a 100K salary. Some times, life is just painful, stop by your local pharmacy and by IB Profen 800s, gods (Temporary) cure to life.

I wish someone would help me (Lie) spurs up my Resume.

[aka name]

I think in most cases the employer doesn't know what they want.

The company I work for hires people all the time not knowing fully what their job will entail. A guy might start off doing paperwork but may end up troubleshooting electronics or computer/network issues, depending on what problems he can solve.

I wish someone would help me (Lie) spurs up my Resume.

This book helped me with my resume:
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Resumes-Coll ... 109&sr=8-3

[aka name]

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7/1/08: Brandon says: Hmm well i would not agree with a lot of these comments.... The reason why most of you have horrible paying job is probably because you were not working in your field prior to your degree. I received a A. S in computer networking systems also, prior to that I had 3 - 5 years already in the field. I got a great job right out of ITT making 12k more than what i would of had if i did not have a degree. Like what ROD said.. YOU GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN..... if you have the knowledge and the know-how... you should be fine... if you dont know your field...it will show in the interviewing process....

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So he get's a better paying job because he worked in his field for 3 - 5 years prior to purchasing an ITT "degree" and then tells the world "you get out what you put in." Is talking about puting forth effort as an ITT Tech [customer] or in field related work?

[Seven ALive]

I love that line, its another official ITT slogan, Most of not ALL ITT Drones/PR's use that phrase when arguing for ITT.

[KuJoe]

It's not that hard to get in the IT field prior to getting a degree. I can attest to that first hand. The problem I've seen is with some students who when I tell them the "secret" they don't think it's worth it.

Here's my "secret" that apparently isn't worth it to some people: get an internship. I started at my company at 18 years old working 20 hours a week @ $10/hour as a Server Administator Assistant. About 10 months later I found an opening in the department (which I got the first interview for because I was "in-house") I am currently in now and at the time I jumped from 20 hours a week @ $10/hour to 4 days a week @ ~30k/year base pay (not including any bonuses, differential, benefits, etc...).

The plus to an internship is also the resume experience you can put down (like my 1 year of windows server administration, remote troubleshooting/suport, etc...) which even if you do it while going to school full time that's still 2-3 years of in field experience after your degree.

Now of course, $10/hour is nothing. Hell, the people at my school are making that working in the food industry and get double the hours and a flexible schedule (my company works around school so you set your schedule pretty much as an intern which is easy to do with a max of 20 hours, which is why most people laugh at the idea and would rather try to get a job with their degree and 6+ years of customer service experience.

But seriously, if there's one thing I can say here that the members of this board listen to, it's aim for internships unless you enjoy phone support (which some people do, don't get me wrong, it's just a stressful job most of the time).

And as a shameless plug, if you live near Tampa, Florida or Southfield, Michigan I can refer you to some intership or other entry level job openings for my company if interested.

[Seven ALive]

Who wouldn't like an internship? I would live for an internship!!! Hmm google and intel are where i live.

[MSTie1]

Yes it definitely is possible to get an IT job without a degree. I just got one for ~30k/yr working in a local datacenter. Best way to get at internships are to check the webpages of the companies you'd like to internship for, that's really the only place I've seen them anyhow. Through my daily check of dice,monster, etc there weren't really any interships posted.

[KuJoe]

Yeah, most companies don't advertise internships at all. I found mine while working at Dominos Pizza actually (I was a manager and my driver was working in HR at the company and told me about it). But after looking on their site I saw all the intern positions listed. They mainly do their internship positions via Word of Mouth from other interns since the requirement is you must be in school.

Honestly, if you're looking for an internship (especially your SA if you're into coding and have the experience) I've noticed a bunch on Craigslist in my area and the coding internships for the smaller companies around here make pretty decent money.