Oh those lies!

[sevenalive]

I love the ITT Tech commercials like i love to get aids or cancer.

The new commercials within the past few years have taken the "I am confident about my future" stance. They no longer say they have a job or tell us what it is. They just say how much they love ITT Tech and they are confident about their future. That exact line is in most of the commercials, just listen for it.

They always seem to be with their parents or mom. I bet that guy that's a soccer coach, and the chick that's a hockey coach still live with their mom. If the commercial doesn't show them with their parents, they show their fat wife.

I written a few mock ITT commercials in which i think are quite hilarious and 10000% better than the current youtube videos. I hope to film them someday, but i sold my camcorder last year. Maybe ill post a script and someone here can film it.

Anyway, They also say they love ITT's hands on approach. What hands on approach? My database class did not have us work with or even create a real database, it was all theory. Infact everything was all theory. The programming classes i had, had us do some basic programming, but it wasn't anything special. Infact it was subpar to the programming class i took at a community college.

ITT has no advantage at all, unless you want to slide by doing no work, paying 40K for a worthless degree.
Community colleges have smaller class sizes, and both universities and CC's are 3-5X cheaper than ITT.

I guess they had to change their commercials so they wouldn't be sued for false advertisement, they use to say what job the guy has and how much he gets paid. Now it's I feel confident about my future, well that's great, you obviously didn't get anywhere and your so fucking stupid that you still believe you are with your ITT degree.

[kayot]

Last night I saw a 3 minute commercial promoting ITT. This guy went on and on about how great ITT is and how his life is richer and more fulfilled having gone to ITT.

It's funny, they come accost as those get rich quick schemes. Have this, have that. He was riding 4-wheelers and vacationing in all the cuts. I wanted to barf when I saw it. Long story short, ITT needs it's wings clipped. I've got the wire cutters.

[KuJoe]

ITT has no advantage at all, unless you want to slide by doing no work, paying 40K for a worthless degree.Community colleges have smaller class sizes, and both universities and CC's are 3-5X cheaper than ITT.

I'm guessing this all on a per-campus basis because I can attest that none of those are true about the Pinellas Park and Tampa campuses except for in terms of cost, which is still pretty cheap for a private school.

Slide by doing no work? I guess the students that failed a class last semester missed the memo.

Paying 40k for a worthless degree? An Associate of Science degree is pretty much the same to all employers, they don't care what it is in, they just care if you have the ability to commit yourself to 2 years of school.

Community colleges have smaller class sizes? If that were true I would have stayed at Saint Petersburg College(which was completely free for me and my wife)... I prefer 15 students per teacher a much better ratio than 40 students per teacher, in some of my GenEd classes it was 65-70 per teacher.

As you can see, either the Pinellas Park/Tampa campuses are in a some sort of magical rift in the universe where up is down and black is white, or your perceptions are on a per-campus basis.

[sevenalive]

No its not on a per campus basis. I been to 2 campuses, they were the same. There is no grading system, you cannot fail the class. You can get away with doing none of the work and pass the class because they will curve the grades or count attendance as 40% and participation as the other 20%. I have witnessed this several times.

Most teachers there are very lax about grades, either that's the way they are or the administration forces them to be this way. In the 1.5 years i went to ITT, i never knew of anyone who failed the classes, but i did know of a few who never turned in work, or turned in work at the last week of class. At a real school with academic standards this wouldn't fly. if you don't have the work on the due date TOO BAD YOU FAIL.

There is a big difference in the degree's, i have talked to a bunch of companies and have confirmed that they DO CARE. Almost all of the employers i have talked to said they would favor someone else over an ITT Degree. Weather it be a CC degree, or a 4 year degree from a community college.

Most people and employers do not respect For profit schools and do not accept there degree's as adequate.
Sitcoms constantly make fun of these schools.
Family Guy made fun of Devry: "My daughter just got into devry" "What did you do hold the door open for her?"
There are other movie and tv show references i can list.

Now i been to 2 CC colleges also in different areas, they had less than 30 students in the class, a few classes had around 15.

But your argument doesn't really make sense, you say you would stay at the CC if they had a smaller teacher to student ratio, but in my own experience at ITT as well as the majority of this site. There was NO hand on or personal education going on. Most of it was theory, i had more lectures and theory at ITT then i did at a CC, and CC covered more advanced material.

Then you say it would have been free, then why didn't you go? ITT PR's and people make the claim about Student to Teacher Ratio, but that really doesn't matter. I done ITT, I done 2 community colleges totaling 2 full semesters of attendance and i sat in on a few ASU classes. S:T Ratio does nothing and has no effect. Lectures are still the same, labs are still the same. Sure you may have to wait a little longer for a teacher to help you 1 on 1, but it isn't bad at all. At ASU, there was about 40 students in there, it was a CAD class near the end of the semester. Students had no problem getting their questions answered. I had a wonderful experience at the community colleges i attended, they had a low S:T ratio.

Now from what i recall your still rather new to ITT, so your not experienced in these things. Next time you go to class, open your eyes and pay attention to whats going on around you. Free feel to video tape or record the class and i can give you my take on it.
You may have not experienced what we are saying on this site, but you will. By December at the latest you will start to see what we are talking about.

These are not on a per-campus basis, they are all owned and operated by ESI, they are not independent and they have to follow their guidelines. You have only been in Problem Solving and MS Office for Dummies (seriously why do they have that class, i complained about that, it was my first class and i should have got out then).
Gen Ed classes are taught by ITT administration and Staff, with the exception of the Math courses, they are taught by Adjudicate instructors.

You honestly have not witnesses the true and complete ITT Tech. Most students are just like you when they start. They block out the bad because they cannot believe what is going on around them. About 6-12 months they wake up and realize.

I did not go to ITT to be handed a degree. I got A's in school and i care about my grades. The grading system at ITT is pathetic and is one of the main reasons nobody respects their programs or degrees.

I would like to have a video of a class you attend, i would film it secretly so there would be no influence, or at least an audio recording. If i have some free time, i will do a video of a class, ill go there and sit in (like anyone would even notice) and film some classes, so everyone can see if they don't already know.

[pwondras]

I havent seen the the disclaimer lately credits earned are unlikely to transfer. They suck I always change the channel when they come on

[sevenalive]

Just seen their new commercial claiming they don't use paid actors and ITT was worth every penny. I found it funny that they are trying so hard.

[pwondras]

Maybe they are paided idiots.