Open book finals

[aka name]

Once, for a one credit hour blow-off class I took during the summer.

[AFive]

New here. I will post my review of ITT here shortly, but let me get on topic here I guess.

I have not had a single class where we did not have open book tests, well one.... I am in my last quarter, we have yet to learn something. Even the tests that were not open book were averaged. You could pass the midterm with 85% getting 10 of the 50 questions right. We had a teacher quit in the middle of the quarter and we all basically got A's just for attending class for 4 weeks.

People that do fail are either complete morons or lazy bastards. All you really have to do is turn in half assed work to get an A. Hell, my Group Dynamics class is a complete joke. I can write complete bullshit and get 100%.

There are students here that think ITT is great; their IQ is 20 however. I have never been stuck in a single building with this number of morons.

[william]

As an instructor at ITT Troy, we HAVE to give open book/take home finals. The "school" administration will not support normal academic standards and sets policy to the whims of the laziest and most moronic students. Everybody knows this because to make it challenging might cause some of the nitwits to stop attending and thats bad for business.

To do otherwise would expose the instructor to negative comments as being "too hard" and "a jerk" and claims of "not learning anything". This leads to an instructor being blacklisted from teaching a subject. This is fact. Thus, we would be cutting our own throats to mentally engage the 5% of the class with a normal IQ.

I don't know what is more pathetic: that these half-wits were allowed to leave high school or that ITT actively recruits them as their major source of income.

If you don't like the instructor's methods, blame the school. He/she is only playing by the boss's rules.

[MBAsmart]

overcrowded with 25 people in the class? What the heck do you think class sizes should be for a small class. At the first college I went to, my physics class had 250 people. The instructor had no clue who was in their class. At that same school my history classes averaged about 125 people. The instructor didn't grade anything - that was left up to their lab assistants that were grad students to do. I was much happier finding a class with 20 to 30 students in it because at least then I had a chance to ask a question and be heard.

[Desert Shadow]

Yeah I realized there really is no grading system. I tested out my theory by missing 65% of a class, but making sure not to hit the 21 day rule, and I passed with a B. I continue to go to the school because I am one quarter away from graduating with my Bachelor's. I might as well have something to show for my debt, and wasted time. But when new students walk in, I tell them to "RUN" and go to a real college. I have helped 10 people to leave the school. Every quarter I see more new students registering, and my school is overcrowded. The school is so over crowded, you have to show up to class a hour early, or you will have to park across the street behind a movie theater. Business is booming for ITT.

I do have a problem with the attendance thing. It angers me that people can show up 4 of the 11 weeks and pass the course.

[Desert Shadow]

Ya open book/open notes are more common then a take home final at the Tempe, AZ campus.

Sure you may think, Oh this kicks ass, but what if it wasn't that way. Would the students actually learned something.

The whole grading system is a joke, and causes their degree to look even more like crap.

Had a couple in the CJ program, in our program we usually have to complete projects like Friday we did a COMPSTAT presentation instead of a final exam or quizes. I find that open book tests in my program are actually harder than the normal ones becuase the amount of information (chapters where information is located) is much greater. So I treat the open bookers the same way I do the normal ones by studing. Much rather do a project than a final anyday.

[Krugg]

Yeah a lot of my classes had a final to them. Hell even one class there was a guy that would hang around my project group and never once asked to join and never did anything for my group. Needless to say the last day of the project he asked if he could join the group and I told him no you cannot and proceeded to my class. Well come to find out he ended up passing the class and moving on when he didn't even do the final project and barely attended any of that class.

[johnw93]

I know for a fact that I was given several A's that I did not earn because of "Class Participation". I did not touch a single switch or router in either of my classes on switches and routers. I did work with Packet Tracer in the IT 320 class, and in IT 321 we spent half the quarter talking about how the Cloud worked instead of how to configure switches.

[aka name]

I know for a fact that I was given several A's that I did not earn because of "Class Participation". I did not touch a single switch or router in either of my classes on switches and routers. I did work with Packet Tracer in the IT 320 class, and in IT 321 we spent half the quarter talking about how the Cloud worked instead of how to configure switches.

Typical. The "students" are in on it, too. I once blurted out that I got an A but didn't learn anything and did virtually nothing, and everyone in class was like: "shhhhhhhhh!"...