Open book finals

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Open book finals

Postby Common » July 9th, 2008, 7:51 am

Yes this has happened many times for me, I have had at least 5 open book finals. Or quiz's given to students over the weeks of the quarter with emphasis that the questions will be on the final, and then being able to use those quiz's with the answers to take the final. Now some of my classmates didn't seem to have a problem with it, but I believe in gaining knowledge through actual learning. Has this gone on at other campuses?
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Re: Open book finals

Postby ttobba » July 9th, 2008, 8:22 am

Yes it has
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Re: Open book finals

Postby Monkeymook » July 9th, 2008, 11:59 am

Yep. Same happens at my campus, more often than not.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby Seven ALive » July 9th, 2008, 4:10 pm

Ya open book/open notes are more common then a take home final at the Tempe, AZ campus.

Sure you may think, Oh this kicks ass, but what if it wasn't that way. Would the students actually learned something.

The whole grading system is a joke, and causes their degree to look even more like crap.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby Common » July 9th, 2008, 8:26 pm

Yeah I realized there really is no grading system. I tested out my theory by missing 65% of a class, but making sure not to hit the 21 day rule, and I passed with a B. I continue to go to the school because I am one quarter away from graduating with my Bachelor's. I might as well have something to show for my debt, and wasted time. But when new students walk in, I tell them to "RUN" and go to a real college. I have helped 10 people to leave the school. Every quarter I see more new students registering, and my school is overcrowded. The school is so over crowded, you have to show up to class a hour early, or you will have to park across the street behind a movie theater. Business is booming for ITT.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby nowaprof » July 12th, 2008, 6:30 pm

Don't worry about the overcrowding because over half will drop out in the first week. Reps (under pressure from the director) openly tell students just to show up the first day or two so they will show as a "sit" to make the rep and director look good.

Heck, there is a 75% cancelation rate at the Ft. Wayne, IN, school before they even start classes.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby KuJoe » July 12th, 2008, 7:12 pm

Damn, I wish my ITT was like that. I suck horribly at math and my Math I class is hard as hell, and if you miss a day forget about it. 20 minutes per quiz is also a killer since it takes me forever to work out problems.

As for overcrowding, I'm glad my ITT is not like that. 15 students per GenEd class is almost to much for me (I'm glad there's less than 10 people enrolled in the CNS program at my campus for my year so once GenEd is out of the way there will be less per class). :D
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Re: Open book finals

Postby MSTie1 » July 13th, 2008, 12:33 am

We don't have open book finals consistently but we have had them before. And the ones that don't the teacher either makes up a review sheet...containing all the questions from the finals....or picks questions from the past homework assignments/quizzes to creat the final. It's ridiculous. The students are so used to it that they don't study in hopes to get an open book final and then whine and moan to get one. It's so freaking annoying.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby IlikeItt » July 13th, 2008, 1:09 am

There is no open book final test in Anaheim. In my last quater, I took a 50 question final exam and it wasnt an open book test. The test did not contain questions from past homework or from quizes. And twenty of the questions were not multiple choice.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby Hatuey10 » July 14th, 2008, 2:14 pm

As a former student of ITT,open book finals is what makes this school famous for.I rather gain knowledge by studying and challenge myself.However, if some of the students decided to take our exams the traditional way (non books), the majority of the students will riot and call you names just like in middle school.

The campus were i've went to as far as the students is very immature and decided to go to ITT just to get easy grades. That is when I realized that ITT is a scam.

Avoid going to this institute at all cost :cry:
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Re: Open book finals

Postby Seven ALive » July 14th, 2008, 5:37 pm

Ya there is quite a few of these students looking for an easy ride and they see ITT has a good choice.

Easy rides are shitty, if you want a degree and the knowledge you gotta work for it, it will pay off. IDK what they expect they are not learning how to do anything, and once they got out there, they will soon realize that in the job interviews (for the employers who didn't reject sight on seen of their itt "education")
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Re: Open book finals

Postby MSTie1 » July 15th, 2008, 11:19 pm

IlikeItt wrote:There is no open book final test in Anaheim. In my last quater, I took a 50 question final exam and it wasnt an open book test. The test did not contain questions from past homework or from quizes. And twenty of the questions were not multiple choice.



No shit??? I have not been to a single class at ITT that did not have multiple choice for everything....including the math classes! So are you actually learning things? Are the teachers decent? I think that's another reason why there are so many open book finals or multiple choice tests, the teachers do such a poor job of teaching that even if you studied you wouldn't have a prayer of passing the tests.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby KuJoe » July 16th, 2008, 12:34 pm

LoL, I would kill for an easier math class. The problem with the class is that the teacher has a Master's degree in Math and she needs to remember to "dumb it down".
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Re: Open book finals

Postby doniker » July 16th, 2008, 7:52 pm

During my 9 months/3 and 1/2 quarters at ITT, I got A's and B's in all my classes and had many open book tests.

$20,000 and 9 months of time later and I know as much about computer networking now as I did before I enrolled - next to nothing.
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Re: Open book finals

Postby kuranes » July 25th, 2008, 9:15 am

I went and almost all of my tests were in fact open book. I would also mention that the school was very overcrowed, with 25 to 30 or maybe more people per class. They always said they valued small class sizes so we could interact and learn more, but that was obviously not the case.
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