Don't be burned, fooled or mislead by College Accreditation

[aka name]

Title: Don't be burned, fooled or mislead by College Accreditation
Date: April 15, 2008
Author: Glenn Brandon Burke
It is a really short article so I won't summarize it or anything

Edit by Seven ALive: Actually it's quite large (you have to scroll), i moved and formatted it to the articles section. GREAT FIND!!! Damn lying ITT Tech Drones!!!

While researching this article, I called the admissions department of an ITT Technical Institute in Las Vegas, NV, and spoke with a gentleman named "John." I asked John if ITT is Regionally Accredited, and here's what he said:

"No. We have National Accreditation. Wouldn't you prefer graduating from a college that's recognized nationally instead of just regionally?"

Wow! That sounded pretty impressive to me. Then I asked if, after completing my ITT bachelor's ITT, would I be in a position to pursue a master's degree from San Diego State University or University of Nevada Las Vegas; in other words, would SDSU or UNLV accept my bachelor's from ITT.
John replied, "Each school is different. You'd have to check with them. But keep in mind that ITT having National Accreditation means we're recognized across the nation. Now, Glenn, would that be better for you? But as far as UNLV, they do accept our degrees since we're both here in Vegas."

To double-check John's information, I called both UNLV and SDSU's Graduate, Undergraduate and Matriculation departments. I was told by both schools that they have not, do not, do not plan nor intend to articulate any agreement with ITT.

Source: http://thesop.org/story/education/2008/04/15/dont-be-burned-fooled-or-mislead-by-college-accreditation.php

Source PDF: http://prin.tt/t5CVlb

[MSTie1]

Okay, I don't know exactly what this involves but I was told there is a way to back a regionally accredited college "into a corner" and make them take your degree. They might not take all of it, It might be because of the quarter hr/full hour thing I'm not sure. But the IT Chair at my campus that got his bachelors from ITT is going to pursue his masters, I think he was going to go to Kentucky State (he's from there, wanted to do it online or something) and he said that there is a form that ITT has that you fill out that forces a regionally accredited college to do so. I'll find out more details and get back to you all.

[sevenalive]

That sounds like a complete lie from ITT. There is no way they can force a college to take a degree. I bet your program chair is going to University of Phoenix for the masters. Well guess what UoP, Devry, Collins college, and westwood are all scams too! At least University of Phoenix has a stadium though (they just got their name on it for 5 years because they paid for it.)

[MSTie1]

Naw he's not going to any online "nationally" accreditted college, he's going to a real one. Like I said though, I'll get more details about it. I don't see how ITT can do that either but he's mentioned it on more than one occasion and now he's in the process of picking out a place to go, so I dunno.

[aka name]

The community college I attended after earning two "degrees" from ITT only accepted one class from that place, some sort of level 1 Basic class (technical). The university I transfered to later on accepted none. The sad thing is my stint at ITT is permanently on my university transcript; it's just three lines, something like:

ITT Technical Institute, [CITY, STATE]
[dates attended]
NO CREDIT ALLOWED

I was told to provide transcripts from all schools I received credit from, so I did.

[TheTick900]

I am a recent graduate from ITT and now I am attending Fontbonne University for an MBA. Fontbonne is a regionally accredited University in St. Louis. It is quite possible to take your Bachelor's degree from ITT and go pursue a Master's at a University. And just to let you all know. The University of Phoenix is a regional accredited institution.

[sevenalive]

LOL University of Phoenix is an online school. You might be thinking of University of Arizona, not University of Phoenix.

Wow you actually paid 80K for their BAS (Bachelor's of Applied Science, not the same thing as a BS).
I researched Fontbonne, its not a traditional 4 year state college or university. Its a catholic college from what i gathered from it, but i could be wrong.

Also according to the answers here: http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=26285
You should know that many people cannot get their degree accepted, so you were lucky.

Most if not all regionally accreditation schools do not accept nationally accredited degrees.
I have personally called 18 or so universities, asked them several questions and they do not accept ITT credits or degree's.

UoP is a for-profit "school" just like itt, and devry. They are not regionally accredited either.

@Everyone: I researched this guy, i am sure he isn't a drone, well unless they are smart and are stealing other people's identities. Anyway, just google search "TheTick900" Accounts date back to 04 and earlier.

[aka name]

@Everyone: I researched this guy, i am sure he isn't a drone, well unless they are smart and are stealing other people's identities. Anyway, just google search "TheTick900" Accounts date back to 04 and earlier.

Good research! I think I would have missed it. I have heard of schools taking ITT "degrees", but they are very few, very expensive, and desperate to enroll students. Why would anyone want to go through all that?

Why An MBA May Not Be Worth It
"UoP" accreditation
distance learning accreditation

[sevenalive]

That video was pretty funny.

But UoP accreditation is outdated

University of Phoenix* AZ Accredited
*Name change: Institute for Professional Development to University of Phoenix (1978)

Current Accreditation Status: Accredited
Candidacy Date(s): 1977
Accreditation Date(s): (1978- .)
Commission Participation: PEAQ PARTICIPANT
Year of Last PEAQ Comprehensive Evaluation: 2001 - 2002
Year of Next PEAQ Comprehensive Evaluation: 2011 - 2012
Last Action: 09/10/2007

So there evaluation isn't anything recent, plus before 2002 i don't think UoP was even online at all. UoP was bought and its structure changed, it has accreditation status from 78. From all the complains you can read on the internet, i doubt they will maintain their status when they hit evaluation in 2011.
Source: http://www.ncahlc.org/index.php?option= ... nstid=1949