Program Assigning

[Lost_Rose]

Ok, so here's my current story. I've been going to ITT since September of 05 (ugh) and during those first two years.. I had believed that I was in the associates program for Multimedia, then I was going to get the Bachelors in Digital Entertainment and Game Design. Only like two quarters ago, I found out that I was actually fully in the DEGD program because of the classes they were putting me in (bachelor level classes). My father, mother, and myself had all thought that I was in Multimedia. My rep that I had even thought because he had asked if I was getting ready for graduation. So now, I'm am without an associates degree, but since I'm a little past halfway from getting my BA degree it would be senseless to trash it now. Too much money has been put into their slimy little hands. Both my father and mother said I should just get it done and then once I have a better job with my 'supposed' degree, if I wanted a different degree later on I would have to put myself through another school. -.-

I should have been more observant when I first started. I could have prevented this whole thing. Ha

[sevenalive]

That sucks, but they might have switched you and not have told. I have had many problems with the registrar and the program chair. When i transfered campuses, they put me in as a 1st quarter student! I had to correct it, and somehow they blamed me.

I would try to get it sorted out and tell them you want the AS degree. You should have all required classes, infact they might have broke their contract. Read your enrollment agreement, or if you have a family lawyer have them read it.

Try and do what it takes to get the hell out with the AS degree.
It will cost you $80,000 + interest if you continue, instead of $40,000+interest.
Either way we are getting ripped off.

ASU charges around 30,000 for a Bachelor of Science degree.
ITT only offered Applied Science degrees, which are worth a lot less then a real science degree.

We all made a mistake going to ITT, but we can correct it. Right now we are trying to get a class action lawsuit going. We are waiting on a few key pieces of evidence and testimonials.

[masamune]

Lost_Rose, do you think that the BS degree from ITT will be worth the price of two more years of ITT. If you think that having the degree is worth $40k, you should keep going. If you think that it is not, you should stop now. Forget about the money and time you have already put into ITT. That money and time is gone, sunk, never to return.

Only spend more money if that money will bring you value.

Oh, and do look into their misrepresentation of what you would be recieving. You paid a lot of money for the AS degree. Don't give up on having them award it because they rejected you once. Think of it as them stealing something you have paid for.

Good luck.

[sevenalive]

ITT does not offer BS or AS they offer AAS and BAS, basically Applied Science not Of Science, which has a significantly lower value.

[MBAsmart]

So far I have found some of the topics to be quite interesting and can completely relate to them. However this one I am having trouble with. Apparently some of you are having a hard time reading the course catalogs that every one of us got when we started. All the associate programs are AAS (Associates of Applied Science) and the bachelors programs are bs (Bachelors of Science) There are not BAS degrees at ITT. So what's the difference? An applied science degree means more hands on, just a degree "of science" means more theory is involved and less hands on.

Still I feel bad for lost_rose as I understand that not getting what you thought you would can be frustrating. There were a couple other people that I went to class with that had the same thing happen to them. However - all you have to do is stop by the Dean's office or go see the registrar and ask them how to apply for your associate's degree. They basically have you fill out a form saying you are requesting your AAS - doesn't cost any extra and you don't have to switch programs.

Here I always thought college made people smarter - I guess it only works for people that actually apply themselves. It wouldn't matter what college you go to - most of the people that I find complain about things would find something wrong there too!

[aka name]

Apparently some of you are having a hard time reading the course catalogs that every one of us got when we started. All the associate programs are AAS (Associates of Applied Science) and the bachelors programs are bs (Bachelors of Science) There are not BAS degrees at ITT.
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I guess it only works for people that actually apply themselves.

The type of "degree" awarded is based on the program and the State in which the "degree" is received:
IL - ECET - Bachelor of Applied Science Degree

IN - ECET - Bachelor of Science Degree

[sevenalive]

There is nothing stating that Applied Science means hands on. That is a common misinterpretation. AAS just means you did not get the normal general ed. courses, like English, Math, History and Science. ITT is not hands on, there is plenty of theory, infact more theory than other colleges i been too. They manage to charge you 3-4X, less material, poor education, and somehow it takes more time. 4 hours a class x 3 classes x QUARTERS done. I learned and had more class material covered in an 1-3 hour class in a semester then the entire quarter of 3 classes at ITT.

[aka name]

I learned and had more class material covered in an 1-3 hour class in a semester then the entire quarter of 3 classes at ITT.

I think I studied and learned more in one semester at the university than I did the entire three years I spent at ITT. Swear to G-d.

[MBAsmart]

That is all very interesting. ITT is now the third college that I have gone to. I was unaware that the degree types were different from state to state - that certainly is very interesting information. My other school were regular Universities - one in a big town and one a not so big town. However I have to say that comparing the three together I can see a lot of similarities to them all. I can say that I have had classes at all three in which I passed and didn't really learn much. Course that all depends on the topic and my overall interest at the time, not to mention any other things I had going on during those classes.

[Veracity]

There is nothing stating that Applied Science means hands on. That is a common misinterpretation. AAS just means you did not get the normal general ed. courses, like English, Math, History and Science. ITT is not hands on, there is plenty of theory, infact more theory than other colleges i been too. They manage to charge you 3-4X, less material, poor education, and somehow it takes more time. 4 hours a class x 3 classes x QUARTERS done. I learned and had more class material covered in an 1-3 hour class in a semester then the entire quarter of 3 classes at ITT.

Great explanation! An AAS is a terminal degree. The user intends to terminate his education at that level. It is more difficult to transfer the credits to a Bachelor program. If the individual does decide to transfer (assuming they attended an accredited institution), they will have to take many more gen. ed. classes than a AS degree holder to complete.

[SheepToTheFleecing]

What is the DEGD program? (From the thread head.)

I though that every Bachelor's Degree that they offered had an Associate's Degree earned acquired on the way to it. (Not that I ever cared much. That is just what I thought.) According to MBAsmart, Lost_Rose did earn acquire a degree and s/he was simply under the impression told that s/he hadn't. S/he need only "apply" for it.

MBAsmart,
How did you know this? Did they try to pull this crap with you too? How did you find out the truth? Thank you for dropping some knowledge on us. Especially on Lost_Rose.


I will now ramble.
(These are not the droids you are looking for. You'd like fries with that? You will now go for you Bachelor's degree (or you will be dropping out of school with no degree.)