IT-Web Developement...

[KuJoe]

Is not offered in either of the local ITT Tech campuses to me even though their site says so (apparently no job market where I live, then again the job market period sucks with the current economy).

That's what I was originally planning on going to school for as a request from my wife's friend who wanted to hire me at the place he works (and web design/administration has always been a hobby of mine). I opted to enroll in their CNS program since I have the option to switch to Web Developement in the future if it is offered. The perk to being in the CNS program is that it allows me to stay at my current employer, which I really enjoy, it's just that I wouldn't mind getting paid for the stuff I enjoy doing in my free time.

Oh well, thems the breaks! Just because their website says the campus offers the program doesn't mean it has the program... according to the rep I spoke with "the campus has the ability to offer the program, but the ultimate decision is based on the campus and local job market is a big factor".

[sevenalive]

Please read my post on my web development class. Honestly you can't get a job making websites working for a company. However you can get a job maintaining an existing website. Most web developers are freelance, they didn't go to school, they learned on their own.

I hate to break it to you, but ya you can switch, but at a HUGE cost, you have to sign another enrollment agreement at a big price per credit price HIKE. When i transferred programs i figured it out, when i transferred schools i did it again.

ITT does not teach it's students how to make a real-world nicely designed website. REAL WORLD, Company websites run on PHP or ASP.Net w/ usually c# as the backend. Most sites have a database, most of the time its SQL (either mysql or MSSQL) ITT doesn't even teach C# and their PHP consists of a packet. Its not nearly enough to know how to build a site.
Their database class is all theory, at the very end we got to create a fake database in Access! Seriously access? nobody uses that crap for serious database work. There was no talk of SQL Queries or how to build and maintain a database.

That goes for every class at ITT, its just way to basic, middle school basic on the verge of high school level.

Most Programmers in the field (and 85% of google) learned programming on there own, with the help of programming websites and google. They later obtained their degrees (if any to be honest, they already have a sweet job with a bunch of experience).

Go to careerbuilder and look at the qualifications for the jobs. Then go to your program chair and just spit them out to him, mine didn't even know what SQL was.

[ttobba]

awkward pause................slow clap............whistles from the background...............bras and roses fly at Seven.

BTW: I changed majors from Computer Science to Software Engineering. They have the same career outcomes but for some reason Software Engineering had a 30k higher beginning salary average over computer science. My advisor said it has higher beginning salary only because it has engineering in its name and the degree is from the College of Engineering otherwise u learn the exact same stuff. ISU Rules.

[aka name]

Most web developers are freelance, they didn't go to school, they learned on their own.

I hear about this all the time. I actually took classes with a guy at a community college who got a job for 75K (and quit school) because he knew so much about programming, all of which he learned on his own. He didn't have a degree and was just then completing Engineering Physics 2. He was 20 years old!

create a fake database in Access! Seriously access? .

We just got rid of ours at work; everything is in Oracle now.

on the verge of high school level.

ITT Technical Institute: High School - The Rebirth *scary music playing *

[aka name]

Oh well, thems the breaks! Just because their website says the campus offers the program doesn't mean it has the program... according to the rep I spoke with "the campus has the ability to offer the program, but the ultimate decision is based on the campus and local job market is a big factor".

No offense, but you seem very naive. Please take the time to look for other schooling options before you waste more of your life.

[aka name]

BTW: I changed majors from Computer Science to Software Engineering. .

Good move. I've heard through word-of-mouth that Computer Engineering is much more valuable than Computer Science, as far as degrees are concerned. But the curriculums should be different, assuming the 'Software' Engineering you're studying is the same as the 'Computer' Engineering I'm talking about. Computer Engineering is much harder; at my old school some of the required classes were legendary in their difficulty.

Meanwhile, back in hell:
I'm attending ITT Technical Institute for 4 years to get a Bachelors in Software Engineering. Cost is $84,000.
He's refering to Software Engineering Technology

[KuJoe]

Oh well, thems the breaks! Just because their website says the campus offers the program doesn't mean it has the program... according to the rep I spoke with "the campus has the ability to offer the program, but the ultimate decision is based on the campus and local job market is a big factor".

No offense, but you seem very naive. Please take the time to look for other schooling options before you waste more of your life.

ITT Tech is actually my 3rd school of higher education, the other 2 weren't to my liking.